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Kharayeb (Arabic: الخرايب) is a historic town in the Sidon District in the South Governorate, Lebanon. The town is 77 km (48 mi) south of Beirut, and stands at an average altitude of 190 m (620 ft) above sea level. The town boasts a rich historical legacy, with archaeological excavations revealing a complex settlement history spanning from Prehistory to the Ottoman period. Notably, Kharayeb's origins can be traced back to the Persian period (539–330 BC), when it played a pivotal role in the region's agricultural and economic landscape, culminating in the construction of its Phoenician temple around the 6th century BC.

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@@Paucabot: Bona tarda Pau, hi far� un cop d'ull aviat. Salutacions

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@Paucabot Ets una m�quina, super�pid! A la categoria, 180 i pocs? Assumible!

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The little Danes experiment was a 1951 Danish operation where 22 Greenlandic Inuit children were sent to Danish foster families in an attempt to re-educate them as "little Danes". While the children were all supposed to be orphans, most were not. Six children were adopted while in Denmark, and sixteen returned to Greenland, only to be placed in Danish-speaking orphanages and never live with their families again. Half of the children experienced mental health disturbances, and half of them died in young adulthood. The government of Denmark officially apologised in 2020, after several years of demands from Greenlandic officials.

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selecció llengua en imatge a {{Ésser viu}}

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Et felicito pel canvi.

Si t'interessa la feina, a mi em faria molta il�lusi� que m�s editors s'animessin a actualitzar infotaules. Per exemple en el tema del tractament d'imatges, com el que has fet i mirant si es pot posar un carrusel que mostri -a l'espai tradicional- les diferents propietats d'imatge de que en disposa

Nom�s ho has de dir!

Manlleus (discussi�contribucions)

@Amadalvarez Bon dia! Nom�s he reutilitzat el codi de la infotaula de grup hum�, em sembla que era, cap a la d'�sser viu perqu� no contemplava el que buscava. No s� a qu� et refereixes amb un carrusel, vols dir posar m�s camps disponibles a la plantilla o altre lloc? Potser no est� animat lo d'actualitzar infotaules perqu� actualment encara �s una mica de caos, per exemple, de plantilles molt adaptades a WD a d'altres que ni tan sols se'n fa una crida al t�tol de l'article, per� es clar, la gent ja ho vol tot "mastegat". Els �ltims dies, per exemple, he tocat temes de batalles romanes, i Infotaula conflicte militar �s b�sicament una plantilla manual (amb alguna excepci�). Potser, de moment em va millor fer petites coses, abans d'entrar en alguna "infocaixa de pandora", ja que de moment, hi va per �poques, continuo donant prioritat a la millora i creaci� d'articles. Salutacions

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@Manlleus, Carrusel vol dir que dins l'espai de la imatge tens m�s d'una foto i selecciones la que vols veure amb el tipus que et mostra al peu. Mira Palau Nacional (Barcelona) o Singapur. Actualment hi ha 6 o 7 propietats relatives a imatges. Segons el tema, els items poden tenir unes quantes i es tracta de posar el codi per recuperar-les a les infotaules que encaixen amb aquesta circumst�ncia.

Per aquestes infotaules que estan "menys treballades", caldria fer un mostreig per veure quines propietat d'imatge fan servir i copiar (adaptant-lo) el codi d'alguna, com ara {{infobox physical geography}}.

Si t'animes, et puc explicar/tutelar de com fer-ho.

Ja em dius!.

Manlleus (discussi�contribucions)

@Amadalvarez Ah val, crec que ja ho havia vist en algun article, tot i que t� pinta que tingui sentit per a imatges d'edificis o llocs, per� d'�ssers vius? No s� si estarien declarats com a imatge (P18) i sembla que totes les propietats "relatives" pengen d'imatge P18. Sobre la seva "distribuci� geogr�fica" podria tenir espai per a una o 2 imatges, una global o del continent i l'altre local, amb els seus respectius peus d'imatge, per� no se m'acut res m�s. Per� ara que hi penso, una imatge de l'�sser viu quan �s petit o l'altre d'adult, o potser de diferents subesp�cies d'una esp�cie particular. Caldria rumiar amb en Lepti, tamb�, no s�c gaire expert en temes de biologia..

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No em referia nom�s a �sser viu, sin� a millorar les prestacions de les infotaules que no mantinc gaire. Em vaig mirar les oportunitats amb l'article de lle� i, certament, s'hauria d'anar per la via de g�nere i/o edat que no figuren en diferents propietats sin� com a multivalors de P18; seria un tractament diferent al que estic fent ara, per� crec que es pot aconseguir. El tema subesp�cies no ho veig tan clar; per no ser injust a l'hora de determinar quines es mostren i quines no i, a m�s, perqu� si s'esmenten dins l'article seria all� on estaria millor la imatge i no haver de pujar al capdamunt per veure-la.

Quan parlis amb en Lepti, valoreu si �s un contingut que ja tenim i no estem explotant, o un tema que, m�s enll� de preparar la infotaula, ens tocar� poblar WD amb nous continguts.

Sobre la infotaula de conflicte militar, �s l'assignatura que tinc pendent de fa anys i sempre em fa mandra abordar-la perqu� els continguts gen�rics estan raonablement b� a WD, per� els detalls de b�ndols-comandaments-forces-p�rdues..... no est� definit com ha de ser l'estructura a WD i qui obri aquest mel� l'ha de deixar definit per tal que serveixi per tothom. Ja em va tocar fer-ho amb el tema d'eleccions i �s una feinada de por.

A veure si t'engresques i, a m�s de millorar continguts, et llences al m�n de les infotaules, que �s molt interessant.

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Bon dia @Amadalvarez, sempre �s un plaer escriure't sobre el tema, �s simplement incre�ble la feina que has anat fent sobre les infotaules aquests anys, i has elevat la Viquip�dia al n�mero 1 en infotaules, i amb difer�ncia de qualsevol altra, per� com m�s fas, sembla que es descobreixi que hi ha m�s "melons" per obrir. I com que em dedico en un ventall gros de temes diversos a cawiki �s afegir un altre que absorbeixi bastant, temes on hi ha programaci� sempre ho �s, per aix� et dic lo de mica en mica. Tamb� m'agradaria fer documentaci� a infotaules, algunes buides encara en aquest sentit i que els usuaris que nom�s fan articles han de revisar el codi de la plantilla per veure'n els camps disponibles i aix� hauria de canviar. Ficar-me de ple en un "mel�" com convertir una plantilla manual completa em pot suposar molt temps d'absorci�, per� �s la manera d'aprendre, potser apadrinar� alguna infotaula de les que hi ha llistades per "Pendents adaptar o integrar" a la p�gina que m'has enlla�at, un bon terreny de proves/aprenentatge.

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T'entenc. El problema de WP en general �s la manca de perfils amb coneixements t�cnics. Els que havia a l'�nici del projecte han plegat, s'han fet massa vells (portem +20 anys) o han marxat a WD. Fa un any, els de GLwiki em van demanar si els podia instal�lar les nostres principals infotaules. Quan els vaig dir que no hi havia problema per� em cali un administrador per a que entom�s els canvis que s'haguessin de fer en altres plantilles i m�duls, la resposta ve ser "no tenim cap administrador amb permisos per canviar elements protegits o del sistema". I a les noves WP no s� qui entomar� aquest rol.

Vull dir amb tot aix� que si tenim gent amb capacitats per fer manteniment de plantilles, l'hem de conv�ncer que es dediqui a aix� en lloc de posar plantilles de "manca refer�ncies" o propostes d'esborrat d'articles que estan b�, per� s�n curts, per exemple.

Aix� �s el que mirava de fer. Anar a poc a poc �s el m�s sensat i no espero que ning� comenci pel m�s complicat.

Documentar: Fant�stic. Et sembla prou com estan {{infotaula persona/�s}} o {{infotaula competici� esportiva}}, per exemple?. El nom dels par�metres possibles s�n interessants, per� "c�m s'ha d'informar a WD" �s fonamental si volem que es produeixi "el miracle de WD" quan poses la infotaula. S'hauria de fer en infotaules que ja estan evolucionades, perqu� fer-lo en les "abandonades" pot suposar que documentis coses que canviaran.

Afegir millores elementals en Infotaules "poc cuidades": Crec que �s una bona forma de comen�ar a familiaritzar-se en l'�s de WD dins les infotaules, ja que moltes de les sofisticacions que apareixen a les infotaules grans, a les petites no es dona, ja que les seves estructures de dades s�n elementals.

Llista de pendents d'integrar: Moltes d'aquestes ja tenen una candidata on ser integrades. No paga la pena millorar-les, sin� integrar-les, que vol dir: A) mirar si cal que alguna funcionalitat de la "plantilla a integrar" per incorporar-la a la "plantilla integradora", i B) migrar el continguts manuals de la plantilla antiga a WD.

D'aquesta darrera feina hi ha una candidata molt f�cil per comen�ar: {{Infotaula legislatura}} que s'hauria d'integrar a {{Infotaula organitzaci�}}. El que mostra ara �s la composici� del parlament (una organitzaci�) en una legislatura concreta. T� similituds funcionals amb els articles de "Govern de", com ara Govern de Catalunya 2021-2024.

Ja saps que pots comptar amb mi.

Com ho veus?.

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Hi far� un cop d'ull, a veure qu� podria fer. Salutacions

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The wildlife of the archipelago of Bahrain, is more varied than might be expected of this small group of islands in the Persian Gulf. Apart from a strip of the north and west of the main island, where crops are grown with irrigation, the land is arid. With a very hot dry summer, a mild winter, and brackish groundwater, the plants need adaptations in order to survive. Nevertheless, 196 species of higher plant have been recorded here, as well as about seventeen species of terrestrial mammals, many birds and reptiles, and many migratory birds visit the islands in autumn and spring.

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Hi. I see you created this page years ago. I wanted to draw your attention to the naming of this individual, as you may have confused "Pusarla" to be her name. Actually, her name is "Sindhu" and "Pusarla Venkata or P. V. " is her family name. Like her father who P. V. Ramana whose actual name is Ramana.

This is why most of the interwiki articles either use the full name or just abbreviate the surname part to P. V.. I request you to move the page to either Pusarla Venkata Sindhu or P. V. Sindhu. Thankyou. Zoglophie (disc.) 14:00, 21 set 2024 (CEST)

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Are you able to understand English? Please tell me I will try to translate in Catal�n. Zoglophie (disc.) 15:29, 23 set 2024 (CEST)

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Hola. Veig que vas crear aquesta p�gina fa anys. Volia cridar la vostra atenci� sobre el nom d'aquesta persona, ja que potser heu conf�s "Pusarla" com a nom seu. De fet, el seu nom �s "Sindhu" i "Pusarla Venkata o P. V. " �s el seu cognom. Com el seu pare que P. V. Ramana el nom real del qual �s Ramana.

�s per aix� que la majoria dels articles interwiki utilitzen el nom complet o simplement abreugen la part del cognom a P. V.. Us demano que moveu la p�gina a Pusarla Venkata Sindhu o a P. V. Sindhu. Gr�cies.

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@Zoglophie Hi! The full name order in catalan despite foreign may differ from english or lets say telugu, but it seems is quite used the full name version rather than abbreviations, so "Pusarla Venkata Sindhu" may be correct but still in catalan: Sindhu Pusarla Venkata or Sindhu Venkata Pusarla, so first name always in first place is more correct in that language. I prefer personally the full name but foreign order instead as I mentioned first. Then, a lot of wikipedias take fist name and then one of the surnames, thats another option. I'll ask better the community.

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Problem is that selectively taking "Pusarla" from her surname "Pusarla Venkata". Either we abbreviate her name to P. V. Sindhu like her father's article which is at P. V. Ramana, or use the full name. Even when you see the common name, it is P. V. Sindhu but never "Pusarla Sindhu". I hope you are understanding what I'm trying to say. Zoglophie (disc.) 16:31, 23 set 2024 (CEST)

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@Zoglophie I understand that, we also almost never use [surname, name] as germans or maybe in England because its quite rare in romance languages like Catalan, never heard so in Spanish or French too, and only abbreviate firstnames, not surnames or "family names". On the other hand, I read about english/german/etc full names without abreviations in romance group of languages literature but I'm not sure about indian names or others, so my understanding is limited. If I get an answer from the community with proper clarification, I'll rename the article and possibly the rest

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Independence Day (Albanian: Dita e Pavar�sis�) is a public holiday in Albania observed on 28 November. It commemorates the Albanian Declaration of Independence (from the Ottoman Empire), which was ratified by the All-Albanian Congress on 28 November 1912, establishing the state of Albania.

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The Cappadocian calendar was a solar calendar that was derived from the Persian Zoroastrian calendar. It is named after the historic region Cappadocia in present-day Turkey, where it was used. The calendar, which had 12 months of 30 days each and five epagomenal days, originated between 550 and 330 BC, when Cappadocia was part of the Persian Achaemenid Empire. The Cappadocian calendar was identical to the Zoroastrian calendar; this can be seen in its structure, in the Avestan names and in the order of the months. The Cappadocian calendar reflects the Iranian cultural influence in the region.

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Erzi (Russian: Эрзи; Ingush: Аьрзи, romanized: Ärzi, lit. 'Eagle') is a medieval village (aul) in the Dzheyrakhsky District of Ingushetia. It is part of the rural settlement (administrative center) of Olgeti. The entire territory of the settlement is included in the Dzheyrakh-Assa State Historical-Architectural and Natural Museum-Reserve and is under state protection.

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B1 is a medical-based Paralympic classification for blind sport. Athletes in this classification are totally or almost totally blind. It is used by a number of blind sports including blind tennis, para-alpine skiing, para-Nordic skiing, blind cricket, blind golf, five-a-side football, goalball and judo. Some other sports, including adaptive rowing, athletics and swimming, have equivalents to this class.

The B1 classification was first created by the IBSA in the 1970s, and has largely remained unchanged since despite an effort by the International Paralympic Committee (IPC) to move towards a more functional and evidence-based classification system. Classification is often handled on the international level by the International Blind Sports Federation (IBSA) but it sometimes handled by national sport federations. There are exceptions for sports like athletics and cycling, where classification is handled by their own governing bodies.

Equipment utilized by competitors in this class may differ from sport to sport, and may include sighted guides, guide rails, beeping balls and clapsticks. There may be some modifications related to equipment and rules to specifically address needs of competitors in this class to allow them to compete in specific sports. Some sports specifically do not allow a guide, whereas cycling and skiing require one.

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