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::A reference from The Daily Telegraph, labeled as being a "newspaper of record"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph</ref>: "Harvard president accused of plagiarism amid anti-Semitism row"<ref>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/12/11/harvard-president-accused-plagiarism-amid-anti-semitism-row/</ref>. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:1210:7EE1:1200:79CC:D803:A9F2:9E0B|2A02:1210:7EE1:1200:79CC:D803:A9F2:9E0B]] ([[User talk:2A02:1210:7EE1:1200:79CC:D803:A9F2:9E0B|talk]]) 18:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)V-D S |
::A reference from The Daily Telegraph, labeled as being a "newspaper of record"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph</ref>: "Harvard president accused of plagiarism amid anti-Semitism row"<ref>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/12/11/harvard-president-accused-plagiarism-amid-anti-semitism-row/</ref>. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:1210:7EE1:1200:79CC:D803:A9F2:9E0B|2A02:1210:7EE1:1200:79CC:D803:A9F2:9E0B]] ([[User talk:2A02:1210:7EE1:1200:79CC:D803:A9F2:9E0B|talk]]) 18:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)V-D S |
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:Looks like it's been added with the telegraph and other sources [[User:Cannolis|Cannolis]] ([[User talk:Cannolis|talk]]) 22:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC) |
:Looks like it's been added with the telegraph and other sources [[User:Cannolis|Cannolis]] ([[User talk:Cannolis|talk]]) 22:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC) |
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== Plagiarism allegations == |
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{{ping|Innisfree987}} - it's not clear to me why you removed the entire substance of Rufo's allegations, while leaving in the full responses of Gay and King. In particular, this sentence: |
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{{tq2|Rufo claimed that Gay had used "verbatim language, with a few trivial synonym substitutions, without providing quotation marks" from multiple sources.}} |
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is necessary in order to both provide proper weight to the allegations and contextualize Gay and King's remarks. Plagiarism is a very broad act that includes everything from missing quotation marks to passing another person's full work as one's own, and readers would be better served by understanding exactly what the nature of the alleged plagiarism is. |
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As an aside, more allegations of plagiarism in several of Gay's articles have emerged today, although they have not yet appeared in what would be deemed a reliable source here.<ref>https://freebeacon.com/campus/this-is-definitely-plagiarism-harvard-university-president-claudine-gay-copied-entire-paragraphs-from-others-academic-work-and-claimed-them-as-her-own/</ref> |
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Roland Fryer controversy
I added a paragraph about Gay's noteworthy role in punishing Harvard econ prof. Roland Fryer for allegedly engaging in sexual harassment against female subordinates. I put it into the "Career" section, but might move it into a separate "Controversy" section. I've provided appropriate sources from the NY Times, CNN, the Harvard Crimson, and the documentary video about the incident. Input welcome. Bricology (talk) 10:52, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Articles should not have controversy sections, as per WP:CRITS CT55555(talk) 00:04, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Point of information: WP:CRITS is an essay, and not a policy. That said, if it's not clear it's a controversy, there's no good reason to place it in a section called "Controversy." - Fuzheado | Talk 15:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out, I had missed that detail. I think the point made in the essay is still sensible though, so I urge editors to consider it, even if not policy. CT55555(talk) 15:17, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Point of information: WP:CRITS is an essay, and not a policy. That said, if it's not clear it's a controversy, there's no good reason to place it in a section called "Controversy." - Fuzheado | Talk 15:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2023
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Rimonhay (talk) 18:47, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Add a link to the entire congress hearing https://www.c-span.org/video/?532147-1/university-presidents-testify-college-campus-antisemitism-part-1
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.Shadow311 (talk) 22:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Mealy-mouthed nonsense
It's not that she 'failed to adequately condemn antisemitism' - she quite expressly failed to condemn calls for a genocide of Jews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.154.17 (talk) 15:40, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Quote of their exact words
I added this to the article, because for something like this, it is always best to quote their exact words, instead of just writing a summary.
At a Congressional hearing on December 5, 2023, U.S. Representative Elise Stefanik (R-NY) asked, “Dr. Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard’s rules of bullying and harassment, yes or no?” Gay answered, “It can be, depending on the context.”[1]
SquirrelHill1971 (talk) 07:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC) SquirrelHill1971 (talk) 07:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Why does wiki have such a liberal bias? 2601:5CF:4380:110:75DA:6E5C:9BB9:CDCD (talk) 00:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2023
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She plagiarized multiple sections of her Ph.D. thesis, violating Harvard's policies on academic integrity. See details on X (formerly Twitter) by Christofer Rufo on Dec. 10, 2023 2604:3D08:6F7D:B00:1CFF:C651:B5A0:2FD7 (talk) 03:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- �Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. see WP:RSPTWITTER, if you have a better source that meets WP:RS, link to it here and reopen the request then Cannolis (talk) 04:20, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- A reference from The Daily Telegraph, labeled as being a "newspaper of record"[2]: "Harvard president accused of plagiarism amid anti-Semitism row"[3]. 2A02:1210:7EE1:1200:79CC:D803:A9F2:9E0B (talk) 18:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)V-D S
- Looks like it's been added with the telegraph and other sources Cannolis (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Plagiarism allegations
@Innisfree987: - it's not clear to me why you removed the entire substance of Rufo's allegations, while leaving in the full responses of Gay and King. In particular, this sentence:
Rufo claimed that Gay had used "verbatim language, with a few trivial synonym substitutions, without providing quotation marks" from multiple sources.
is necessary in order to both provide proper weight to the allegations and contextualize Gay and King's remarks. Plagiarism is a very broad act that includes everything from missing quotation marks to passing another person's full work as one's own, and readers would be better served by understanding exactly what the nature of the alleged plagiarism is.
As an aside, more allegations of plagiarism in several of Gay's articles have emerged today, although they have not yet appeared in what would be deemed a reliable source here.[4] Astaire (talk) 00:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- ^ University presidents’ responses to genocide question at congressional hearing draw furor, Boston Globe, December 6, 2023
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph
- ^ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/12/11/harvard-president-accused-plagiarism-amid-anti-semitism-row/
- ^ https://freebeacon.com/campus/this-is-definitely-plagiarism-harvard-university-president-claudine-gay-copied-entire-paragraphs-from-others-academic-work-and-claimed-them-as-her-own/
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